<p>Want ad-free episodes, exclusives and access to community Q&As? Subscribe to Forever Strong Insider: https://foreverstrong.supercast.com</p><p>In this powerful episode, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon sits down with former Navy SEAL Commander and author, Rich Diviney, to break down what it takes to thrive under extreme pressure. Rich, author of "The Attributes and Mastering Uncertainty", reveals the psychology of elite performance, explaining why true toughness has less to do with physical strength and more to do with your mental attributes.</p><p><br></p><p>He shares candid insights into the realities of SEAL training, the mental tools used in combat, and why the "little tragedies" of everyday life are your training ground for resilience. This is a must-watch for anyone who wants to build the mental fortitude to overcome anxiety, step outside their comfort zone, and reach their full potential.</p><p><br></p><p>Who is Rich Diviney:</p><p>Rich Diviney is a bestselling author, leadership and human performance expert, and retired Navy SEAL commander. During his career in the US Military, spanning more than twenty years, Rich has completed more than thirteen deployments overseas.</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p>0:00 - What makes a Navy SEAL not normal?</p><p>1:13 - Introduction to Rich Diviney</p><p>2:27 - The difference between SEALs, Delta, and CIA</p><p>3:35 - The "best at what" question</p><p>5:10 - Are SEALs knuckle-draggers?</p><p>7:47 - The dark side of deployment</p><p>10:45 - The sacrifice of military families</p><p>13:51 - Marriage in the special operations community</p><p>15:19 - Why empathy can be a challenge for a "team guy"</p><p>17:40 - The evolution of empathy</p><p>19:34 - Rich's mission: From SEALs to humans</p><p>20:58 - Stepping outside your comfort zone</p><p>24:08 - The Attributes Test & Compatibility</p><p>26:29 - The truth about BUD/S and athleticism</p><p>29:21 - Why athleticism is not a predictor of success</p><p>30:43 - The dopamine reward of hard things</p><p>33:57 - The challenge of mentally hard things</p><p>36:34 - Mastering the "little tragedies"</p><p>37:25 - The psychology of fear (uncertainty + anxiety)</p><p>41:56 - The Horizon Shifting technique</p><p>47:25 - The problem of free-floating anxiety</p><p>48:51 - How to reframe anxiety</p><p>51:08 - How to combine a physiological sigh with horizon shifting</p><p>53:41 - The "nail the exit" story</p><p>56:12 - Identity and its role in uncertainty</p><p>1:00:54 - Leading alpha types</p><p>1:01:52 - The power of hard things</p><p>1:03:50 - The subjectivity of failure</p><p>1:04:15 - A particular set of attributes</p><p>1:04:47 - Living a civilian life</p><p>1:07:37 - The edge</p><p>1:08:44 - The next horizon</p><p>1:09:50 - My dad's story</p><p>1:10:52 - What are the top two attributes of success?</p><p>1:14:13 - The courage switch</p><p>1:15:23 - The neurology of anxiety</p><p>1:16:46 - What advice would you give to someone who wants to be tougher?</p><p>1:18:13 - Closing remarks</p><p>1:21:18 - A funny story</p><p>1:24:00 - The Five Remembrances</p><p>1:25:01 - A moment of meditation</p><p>1:31:16 - Closing remarks</p><p><br></p><p>This episode is brought to you by:</p><p>"LMNT - Free sample pack with any purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/DRLYON </p><p>Timeline - Get 20% off your order at https://timeline.com/LYON </p><p>OneSkin - Get 15% off with the code DRLYON – https://www.oneskin.co</p><p>Our Place - Use Code DRLYON for 10% off sitewide at https://fromourplace.com/DRLYON "</p><p><br></p><p>Find Rich Diviney at: </p><p>IG: https://www.instagram.com/rich_diviney</p><p>X: https://x.com/richdiviney</p><p><br></p><p>Find Dr. Gabrielle Lyon at: </p><p><br></p><p>- Instagram:@drgabriellelyon </p><p>- TikTok: @drgabriellelyon</p><p>- Facebook: facebook.com/doctorgabriellelyon</p><p>- YouTube: youtube.com/@DrGabrielleLyon</p><p>- X (Twitter): x.com/drgabriellelyon</p><p>- Apply to become a patient –...</p>