<p>We discuss how we’re doing on some items from our “25 for ’25 lists,” and how book writing is going for both of us. Plus we talk about the joys of reading commercial fiction from the 1980s.</p> <p><strong>Resources & links related to this episode:</strong></p> <ul> <li> </ul> <p><br>Get in touch: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></p> <p>Visit<a href="https://gretchenrubin.com/"> Gretchen's website</a> to learn more about Gretchen's best-selling books, products from The Happiness Project Collection, and the <em>Happier </em>app.</p> <p>Find the transcript for this episode on the episode details page in the Apple Podcasts app. </p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>