<p>We bring you a conversation with my friend Zibby Owens on her podcast Totally Booked. Taped in front of a life studio audience, we discuss my new book, Secrets of Adulthood, the beauty of frameworks, and why you should label your next email "confidential."</p> <p><strong>Resources & links related to this episode:</strong></p> <ul> <li dir="ltr"><a href="https://zibbymedia.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoo-AMKroEM2zSbhyOctmXnR8wIzgHwDGJKctG8_4IQMnmGw05UK">Zibby Owens </a></li> <li dir="ltr"><a href="https://zibbymedia.com/pages/podcasts">Totally Booked </a></li> </ul> <p><br>Get in touch: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></p> <p>Visit<a href="https://gretchenrubin.com/"> Gretchen's website</a> to learn more about Gretchen's best-selling books, products from The Happiness Project Collection, and the <em>Happier </em>app.</p> <p>Find the transcript for this episode on the episode details page in the Apple Podcasts app. </p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>