<p>This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.audibletrial.com/everforward">Audible</a>, <a href="https://www.fatty15.com/everforward">Fatty15</a> and <a href="https://www.drinklmnt.com/everforward">LMNT.</a></p> <p>Today I we sit down with psychotherapist and author Jessica Baum to explore how our earliest attachment patterns and trauma bonds shape the way we love, connect, and heal. Drawing from her groundbreaking new book <a href="https://a.co/d/6eCUTKs"><em>SAFE: A Process for Creating Safe and Intimate Relationships with Yourself and Other</em>s</a>, Jessica explains how the body stores implicit memory, why safety—not strength—is the gateway to healing, and how we can transform our nervous system responses to build secure, authentic relationships. Together, Chase and Jessica dive into the neuroscience of trauma healing, the difference between familiar love and real safety, the role of co-regulation, and how facing your own fears of abandonment can lead to the deepest peace and connection you've ever known.</p> <p>Follow Jessica <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jessicabaumlmhc/">@jessicabaumlmhc</a></p> <p>Follow Chase <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chase_chewning/">@chase_chewning</a></p> <p>-----</p> <p>00:00 – Why we repeat unhealthy relationship patterns<br data-start="1142" data-end="1145"> 02:00 – How childhood attachment and body memory shape love<br data-start="1204" data-end="1207"> 04:00 – Safely feeling what we've suppressed<br data-start="1251" data-end="1254"> 06:00 – When healing triggers hidden trauma<br data-start="1297" data-end="1300"> 07:30 – Safety as the gateway to true healing<br data-start="1345" data-end="1348"> 10:00 – The science of trauma healing and earned security<br data-start="1405" data-end="1408"> 13:30 – Safe love vs. familiar love<br data-start="1443" data-end="1446"> 15:30 – Vulnerability, intimacy, and doing the work<br data-start="1497" data-end="1500" data-is-only-node=""> 17:00 – Healing while single vs. within a relationship<br data-start="1554" data-end="1557"> 18:00 – Finding anchors: people who help you feel safe<br data-start="1611" data-end="1614"> 19:30 – Why we crave love even after pain<br data-start="1655" data-end="1658"> 20:50 – Mistaking intensity for love and trauma bonding<br data-start="1713" data-end="1716"> 23:30 – Starting the work and finding support<br data-start="1761" data-end="1764"> 25:00 – How to "therapy yourself" and identify core wounds<br data-start="1822" data-end="1825"> 27:00 – How trauma lives in the body<br data-start="1861" data-end="1864"> 30:00 – The nervous system, polyvagal theory, and safety cues<br data-start="1925" data-end="1928"> 33:00 – Understanding nervous system states (ventral, sympathetic, dorsal)<br data-start="2002" data-end="2005"> 35:00 – Co-regulation and energetic connection<br data-start="2051" data-end="2054"> 38:00 – How to recognize a trauma bond<br data-start="2092" data-end="2095"> 41:00 – Learning to be safe alone<br data-start="2128" data-end="2131"> 43:00 – Healing abandonment and generational patterns<br data-start="2184" data-end="2187"> 47:00 – Revisiting childhood wounds without parents<br data-start="2238" data-end="2241"> 50:00 – Parenting, awareness, and intergenerational healing<br data-start="2300" data-end="2303"> 52:00 – "It's not your fault, but it is your responsibility"<br data-start="2363" data-end="2366"> 54:00 – Talking to your inner child and resourcing safety<br data-start="2423" data-end="2426"> 56:00 – Anchors, inner and outer, for emotional regulation<br data-start="2484" data-end="2487"> 59:00 – Revisiting painful memories and integrating trauma<br data-start="2545" data-end="2548"> 01:00:30 – How trauma healing improves physical health<br data-start="2602" data-end="2605"> 01:03:00 – Compassion, memory, and changing your past<br data-start="2658" data-end="2661"> 01:06:00 – The role of compassion in creating safe relationships<br data-start="2725" data-end="2728"> 01:09:00 – The science and humility behind <em data-start="2771" data-end="2777">SAFE</em><br data-start="2777" data-end="2780"> 01:13:00 – Redefining "Ever Forward": slowing down to heal</p> <p>-----</p> <p><em>Episode resources:</em></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.audibletrial.com/everforward">Get Jessica's book for FREE with your 30-day trial of Audible </a></li> <li>Get an additional 15% off the already discounted 90-day starter kit of C15:0 essential fatty acids at <a href="https://www.fatty15.com/everforward">https://www.Fatty15.com/everforward</a> </li> <li>Get a FREE variety sample pack of LMNT electrolytes with any purchase at <a href="https://www.drinklmnt.com/everforward">https://www.DrinkLMNT.com/everforward</a> </li> <li>Watch and subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/everforwardradio">YouTube</a></li> </ul>