<p><strong>Most people run from stress. The world’s highest performers run toward it.</strong> </p><p>Sébastien Page manages over <strong>$500 billion in global assets</strong>. He’s the CIO of one of the world’s largest investment firms, and he wrote <em>The Psychology of Leadership</em> while living under relentless pressure. His secret? He doesn’t avoid stress—he uses it as a tool for performance, clarity, and control. </p><p>But here’s the twist: this isn’t just about boardrooms or billion-dollar trades. </p><p>Whether you’re running a company, chasing a deadline, or just trying to stop procrastinating on your goals—<strong>this conversation will flip what you think you know about pressure, performance, and productivity</strong>. </p><p>You’ll learn why trying to “relax your way to success” doesn’t work—and how to <strong>harness discomfort</strong> to create better decisions, higher output, and more resilience in every part of life. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>What You’ll Learn in This Episode:</strong> </p><p>• The psychology of stress and why zero stress leads to burnout </p><p>• How procrastination can <em>boost</em> creative performance </p><p>• What astronauts, athletes, and leaders have in common </p><p>• Why the key to better decisions is <em>strategic patience</em>, not speed </p><p>• The stress-performance curve no one taught you in school </p><p>• Why losing is the real path to mastery (and what Roger Federer can teach you) </p><p>• The difference between being <em>nice</em> vs. being <em>kind</em>—and why it matters </p><p><br></p><p>It's time to start turning <strong>stress into strategy</strong>. </p><p><br></p><p>SPONSORS </p><p>-fatty15 | Go to <a href="https://fatty15.com/dave" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fatty15.com/dave</a> and save an extra $15 when you subscribe with code DAVE.  </p><p>-BodyHealth | Go to <a href="https://bodyhealth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bodyhealth.com/</a> and use code DAVE20 for 20% off your first order of PerfectAmino. </p><p><br></p><p> <strong>Resources:</strong>  </p><p>• <strong>Dave Asprey’s New Book - <em>Heavily Meditated</em>:</strong> <a href="https://daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated/</a> </p><p>• <strong>Sébastien’s New Book –<em>The Psychology of Leadership</em> –  </strong><a href="https://www.psychologyofleadership.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.psychologyofleadership.net/</a> </p><p>• <strong>2025 Biohacking Conference</strong>: <a href="https://biohackingconference.com/2025" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://biohackingconference.com/2025</a> </p><p>• <strong>Danger Coffee</strong>: <a href="https://dangercoffee.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dangercoffee.com</a> </p><p>• <strong>Dave Asprey’s Website</strong>: <a href="https://daveasprey.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://daveasprey.com</a> </p><p>• <strong>Dave Asprey’s Linktree</strong>: <a href="https://linktr.ee/daveasprey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://linktr.ee/daveasprey</a> </p><p>• <strong>Upgrade Collective – Join The Human Upgrade Podcast Live</strong>: <a href="https://www.ourupgradecollective.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ourupgradecollective.com</a> </p><p>• <strong>Own an Upgrade Labs</strong>: <a href="https://ownanupgradelabs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ownanupgradelabs.com</a> </p><p>• <strong>Upgrade Labs</strong>: <a href="https://upgradelabs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://upgradelabs.com</a> </p><p>• <strong>40 Years of Zen – Neurofeedback Training for Advanced Cognitive Enhancement</strong>: <a href="https://40yearsofzen.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://40yearsofzen.com</a> </p><p><br></p><p> </p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong> </p><p>• <strong>00:00</strong> Intro </p><p>• <strong>02:00</strong> Book Launch & Setup </p><p>• <strong>02:45</strong> Buy or Sell? Market Insights </p><p>• <strong>03:20</strong> Stress and Performance </p><p>• <strong>04:28</strong> Sports Psychology Breakdown </p><p>• <strong>09:48</strong> Federer & the Power of Losing </p><p>• <strong>26:42</strong> Rethinking Feedback </p><p>• <strong>31:32</strong> Stress as a Tool </p><p>• <strong>44:10</strong> Listening as Leadership </p><p>• <strong>44:17</strong> Traits of Great Leaders </p><p>• <strong>44:54</strong> Psychology for Entrepreneurs </p><p>• <strong>45:37</strong> Leading Beyond Work </p><p>• <strong>46:09</strong> Sleep Tracking Anxiety </p><p>• <strong>47:39</strong> Channeling Stress </p><p>• <strong>49:04</strong> Extreme Pressure Moments </p><p>• <strong>50:42</strong> The Corporate Athlete </p><p>• <strong>59:08</strong> Vulnerability & Leadership </p><p>• <strong>01:05:23</strong> Goal-Induced Blindness </p><p>• <strong>01: