<p>Once widely banned, raw milk consumption is on the rise and states are repealing their bans. No one’s happier about that than the far right. How did we get here?</p><p>NOTE: In the retelling of Pasteur’s early pasteurization, Aubrey misspoke! The culprit wasn’t lactic yeast, it was lactic acid bacteria. Sorry for the slip up!</p><p><b>Support us:</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/">Watch Aubrey's documentary</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474">Buy Aubrey's book</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897">Listen to Mike's other podcast</a></li><li><a href="http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase">Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul><p><b>Links!</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.markkurlansky.com/books/milk-a-ten-thousand-year-food-fracas/">Milk!: A 10,000 Year Food Fracas</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0362028X22067059">U.S. Consumer survey</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0362028X22128449?via=ihub">The Effects of Pasteurization on Vitamins</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sciencehistory.org/stories/magazine/the-lingering-heat-over-pasteurized-milk/">Lingering Heat over Pasteurized Milk</a></li><li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/bird-flu-virus-has-been-found-in-raw-milk-heres-a-reminder-of-how-pasteurization-improves-safety">How pasteurization improves safety</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1858/05/22/archives/swill-milk-and-infant-mortality.html">Swill-Milk and Infant Mortality</a></li><li>Alta Dena (<a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-07-11-me-491-story.html">Court case 1</a>, <a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-08-28-me-25038-story.html">Court case 2</a>, <a href="https://www.laweekly.com/raw-milk-controversy-nothing-new/">Alta Dena's raw milk history</a>)</li><li><a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/01/raw-farm-raw-milk-mark-mcafee/">A Raw Milk Magnate Has Spent Years Fighting Public Health Agencies</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/dining/08raw.html">Should This Milk Be Legal?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.goerie.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/27/how-did-this-amish-milk-farmer-become-a-maga-icon/81160544007/">The Amish farmer who ignited outrage over raw milk</a></li><li><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/raw-milk-explained-tiktok-influencers-health-1235042145/">Why Are People Promoting Raw Milk?</a> </li><li><a href="https://archive.nytimes.com/dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/the-quest-for-raw-milk/">The Quest for Raw Milk</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/magazine/raw-milk-danger-benefits.html">Some Raw Truths About Raw Milk</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/business/raw-milk-bird-flu-infowars-disinformation.html">Right Wing Commentators Are Pushing Misinformation</a></li><li><a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/how-raw-milk-went-from-hippie-to-maga.html">How Raw Milk Went From Hippie to MAGA</a> </li><li><a href="https://apnews.com/article/bird-flu-raw-milk-h5n1-6398d2eda26eb41797ee2700cf9d036b">Here's why raw milk drinkers need to be concerned about bird flu</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bird-flu-raw-milk-influencers-fda-warning/">Influencers promote raw milk </a></li></ul><p>Thanks to <a href="https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/">Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>

<p>One blogger bravely pushes back against Starbucks, Subway and basic scientific facts.</p><p><br><b>Support us:</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/">Watch Aubrey's documentary</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474">Buy Aubrey's book</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897">Listen to Mike's other podcast</a></li><li><a href="http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase">Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><b>Links!</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/style/taking-on-the-food-industry-one-blog-post-at-a-time.html?searchResultPosition=3">Taking On the Food Industry, One Blog Post at a Time</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/dining/food-babe-maha-vani-hari.html">How the ‘Food Babe’ Went From Obama Ally to Trump Crusader</a></li><li><a href="https://adage.com/article/news/activist-capitalist-food-babe-makes-money/294032/">Activist or Capitalist? How the 'Food Babe' Makes Money</a></li><li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2014/02/27/what-is-the-yoga-mat-chemical-and-why-is-it-in-your-food/">Latest Food Scare: What Is The 'Yoga Mat' Chemical - And Why Is It In Your Food?</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/03/06/286886095/almost-500-foods-contain-the-yoga-mat-compound-should-we-care-keep">Almost 500 Foods Contain The 'Yoga Mat' Compound. Should We Care?</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_mZm_BMiIg">Are You Eating This Ingredient Banned All Over the World?</a></li><li><a href="https://archive.ph/v99Pq">The "Food Babe" Blogger is Full of Shit</a> </li><li><a href="https://archive.ph/SmN0x">Are Microwaves Safe?</a> </li><li><a href="https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/explore-countries/united-states">Global Food Security Index 2022</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/sep/08/food-labeling-us-fda-eu-health-food-safety">Differences between EU and US nutrition labels go far beyond ounces and grams</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/european-food-healthier-ingredients-what-experts-say.html">Is Food Really Better in Europe?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/danschawbel/2015/02/10/vani-hari-how-she-grew-her-food-blog-into-an-empire/">Vani Hari: How She Grew Her Food Blog Into An Empire</a></li><li><a href="https://abc7chicago.com/archive/9048869/">Food blogger asks Kraft to stop using dye in mac and cheese</a></li><li><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/19/maha-moms-influencer-vani-hari-rfk-jr/82765837007/">Meet the food blogger influencing RFK Jr.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dispatch.com/story/lifestyle/health-fitness/2015/04/23/food-babe-blogger-vani-hari/23500361007/">Food Babe blogger Vani Hari taking heat over health science</a> </li></ul><p>Thanks to <a href="https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/">Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>

<p>Why are you, as a man, afraid of sunflowers.</p><p><b>Support us:</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/">Watch Aubrey's documentary</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474">Buy Aubrey's book</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897">Listen to Mike's other podcast</a></li><li><a href="http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase">Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul><p><b>Links!</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29599053/">The O6-O3 ratio: A critical appraisal</a></li><li><a href="https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic">Seed Oils: Are They Actually Toxic?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/no-need-to-avoid-healthy-omega-6-fats">No need to avoid healthy omega-6 fats</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.108.191627">Omega-6 Fatty Acids and Risk for Cardiovascular Disease</a></li><li><a href="https://www.consumerreports.org/health/healthy-eating/do-seed-oils-make-you-sick-a1363483895/">Do Seed Oils Make You Sick?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cspi.org/article/seed-oils-are-they-healthy-or-harmful">Seed oils: Are they healthy or harmful?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxguides/toxguide-113.pdf">ToxGuide: Hexane</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28752873/">Dietary linoleic acid intake and blood inflammatory markers</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28275869/">Effect of dietary alpha-linolenic acid on blood inflammatory markers</a></li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3076650/">Changes in consumption of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids</a></li><li><a href="https://roguescientist.co/the-skinny-on-fats-are-vegetable-oils-bad-for-you/">The Skinny on Fats</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211124725002980?ref=pdf_download&fr=RR-2&rr=94b680c0987adac6#fig2">Dietary oleic acid drives obesogenic adipogenesis</a></li><li><a href="https://www.genesislifestylemedicine.com/blog/how-seed-oils-may-be-affecting-your-body-fat-and-health/">How Seed Oils May Be Affecting Your Body Fat and Health</a></li><li><a href="https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2025/03/seed-oils-health-stanford-nutrition-expert">Stanford nutrition expert breaks down effects of seed oils</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-newest-bitcoin-diet-trend-is-hating-seed-oils/">The Newest Bitcoin Diet Trend Is Hating ‘Seed Oils’</a></li><li><a href="https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/87152793/s11883-004-0084-820220607-1-1s73vew-libre.pdf?1654621621=&response-content-disposition=inline;+filename=Omega_6_fatty_acids_and_coronary_artery.pdf&Expires=1754956597&Signature=HCzWbju~cieFwXSwYC4xxliAkRaHj--j7qF5KHWVpwE3m-TSOMhD9oNtz8rA1mnFykzxjyZiueZfszFkvOWVPRpdyIToLugojvTz1WWXqEouXF7ULmZ5h8iUhmgXycnYD9VgRseChhdSoBzonTJP9XExVVXcSbfxqAD1iNH28KX3sO~Haab~HUSdrMsoQcYBng6oUH77bDVQugRxAVLJgByAfrRKTIKBW19hN64cXYT3jPJkUdHzRmOqMO~BsQUfUMd4VaC5VMAmoQgi4Hqr52BZtJfk340NLr3X1FruaT~d3QZAVf9a8uPRNtWy-~e6DsIeSBpRqg0AWnCnMqZKVA__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA">Omega-6 Fatty Acids and Coronary Artery Disease</a></li><li><a href="https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/know-your-fats/the-great-con-ola/#gsc.tab=0">The Great Con-ola</a></li></ul><p>Thanks to <a href="https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/">Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>

<p>We’re talking about our first diet MLM and IT’S A REAL DOOZY!</p><p><b>Support us:</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/">Watch Aubrey's documentary</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474">Buy Aubrey's book</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897">Listen to Mike's other podcast</a></li><li><a href="http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase">Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul><p><br><b>Links!</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-04-04-mn-19575-story.html">Herbalife: Weighty Profits and Government Probes</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-dec-20-fi-2331-story.html">Herbalife Exec's Death Prompts Bizarre Fallout</a></li><li><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2000/US/06/17/hughes.death/">Autopsy on Herbalife founder finds death caused by accidental overdose</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-feb-18-tm-26781-story.html">The Uncertain Start of a Remarkable Life</a></li><li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050419135903/https://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&sid=aFh1K0o4xxQY&refer=columnist_evans">Nobel Prize Winner Didn't Disclose Herbalife Contract</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.latimes.com/business/la-xpm-2013-feb-15-la-fi-herbalife-latino-20130216-story.html">Latinos crucial to Herbalife's financial health</a></li><li><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/latino-group-demands-herbalife-probe/story?id=22504371">Latino Group Demands Herbalife Probe</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2013/04/bill-ackman-dan-loeb-herbalife?srsltid=AfmBOoofxshFAsWIoXpo-PZnyNjfCw6dbs9p2C4Og88hhOtSAhEMYYWc">The Big Short War</a> </li><li><a href="http://fortune.com/2015/09/09/the-siege-of-herbalife/">The Siege of Herbalife</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/business/staking-1-billion-that-herbalife-will-fail-then-ackman-lobbying-to-bring-it-down.html">After Big Bet, Hedge Fund Pulls the Levers of Power</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2016/07/herbalife-will-restructure-its-multi-level-marketing-operations-pay-200-million-consumer-redress">Herbalife Will Restructure and Pay $200 Million to Settle FTC Charges</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2016/07/its-no-longer-business-usual-herbalife-inside-look-200-million-ftc-settlement">An inside look at the $200 million FTC settlement</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/28/herbalife-resolves-us-criminal-case-over-alleged-corruption-in-china.html">U.S. says Herbalife to pay $123.1 million to resolve China bribery case</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-02-19/herbalife-announces-new-ceo-broader-question-about-the-relevance-of-our-business-model">Herbalife announces new CEO to lead the L.A. nutrition company</a></li></ul><p><br><b>Clips!</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://youtu.be/FYr0jF3U8G4?si=qeuO71KNQgYBBuTs&t=81">Mark Hughes' origin story</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/1HuXW05fJeQ?si=GeBLKdL4F51FSNYn&t=438">Senate committee hearing</a> </li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/QV7JZbKWwWA?si=IGKyNkiAnonWEklP&t=165">Celebrity endorsement</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/kqmBh0r92yo?si=bQ5lr8BLMe52QAtW&t=372">Former Herbalife Distributors Speak Out</a></li></ul><p>Thanks to <a href="https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/">Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>

<p>Everyone agrees that processed foods are bad for you. When it comes to defining what they actually are, however, there is considerably less agreement. <br><br></p><p><b>Support us:</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/">Watch Aubrey's documentary</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474">Buy Aubrey's book</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897">Listen to Mike's other podcast</a></li><li><a href="http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase">Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><b>Links!</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19366466/">Nutrition and health. The issue is not food, nor nutrients, so much as processing</a></li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6389637/">Ultra-Processed Foods: Definitions and Policy Issues</a></li><li><a href="https://www.eatrightpro.org/news-center/practice-trends/examining-the-nova-food-classification-system-and-healthfulness-of-ultra-processed-foods">Examining the Nova Food Classification System and the Healthfulness of Ultra-Processed Foods</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21180977/">A new classification of foods based on the extent and purpose of their processing</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31105044/">Ultra-processed diets cause excess calorie intake and weight gain</a></li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/01/13/why-is-the-american-diet-so-deadly">Why Is the American Diet So Deadly?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916522105241?via=ihub#appsec1">Ultra-processed foods and mortality</a></li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8279036/">Association of ultra-processed food intake with risk of inflammatory bowel disease: prospective cohort study</a></li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/food/article/2024/may/19/academic-and-doctor-chris-van-tulleken-ultra-processed-products-are-food-that-lies-to-us">Academic and doctor Chris van Tulleken: ‘Ultra-processed products are food that lies to us’</a></li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6224546/">Food addiction: a valid concept?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0195666310005088?via=ihub">The study of food addiction using animal models of binge eating</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22414944/">Obesity and the brain: how convincing is the addiction model?</a></li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11403639/">Ultra-processed foods and cardiovascular disease: analysis of three large US prospective cohorts</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27372453/">Sugar addiction: the state of the science</a></li><li><a href="https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-contaminants/the-plastic-chemicals-hiding-in-your-food-a7358224781/">The Plastic Chemicals Hiding in Your Food</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ajpmonline.org/action/showPdf?pii=S0749-3797(25)00072-8">Premature Mortality Attributable to Ultraprocessed Food Consumption in 8 Countries</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916522002842?via=ihub">Ultra-processed food intake and animal-based food intake</a> </li></ul><p>Thanks to <a href="https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/">Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>

<p>From our Patreon feed, we're catching up with RFK Jr. and his cadre of "Make America Healthy Again" influencers.</p><p><b>Support us:</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/">Watch Aubrey's documentary</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474">Buy Aubrey's book</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897">Listen to Mike's other podcast</a></li><li><a href="http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase">Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul><p>Thanks to <a href="https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/">Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>

<p>Meet the tech bro on a noble quest to double his lifespan, improve his productivity and irritate his waitress.  </p><p><b>Support us:</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/">Watch Aubrey's documentary</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474">Buy Aubrey's book</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897">Listen to Mike's other podcast</a></li><li><a href="http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase">Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul><p><b>Links!</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/the-mycotoxins-in-coffee-myth#safe-production-methods">Mycotoxins Myth: The Truth About Mold in Coffee</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/guidance-industry-action-levels-poisonous-or-deleterious-substances-human-food-and-animal-feed#afla">Guidance for Industry: Action Levels for Poisonous or Deleterious Substances in Human Food and Animal Feed </a> </li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/magazine/you-only-better.html">You, Only Better</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/warning-letters/covid-19-letter_to_dave_asprey.pdf">FTC letter to Dave Asprey</a></li><li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/01/22/rfk-alternative-medicine-supplements/">Alternative medicine fans see RFK Jr. as a hero. The field’s skeptics worry.</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.vox.com/2014/12/19/7416939/bulletproof-coffee">The Bulletproof Diet is everything wrong with eating in America</a> </li><li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/bulletproof-coffee-debunking-the-hot-buttered-hype-1681321467">Bulletproof Coffee: Debunking the Hot Buttered Hype</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-04-21/buttered-coffee-could-make-you-invincible-and-this-man-very-rich">Buttered Coffee Could Make You Invincible. And This Man Very Rich</a></li></ul><p>Thanks to <a href="https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/">Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>

<p>The places where humans live the longest are explained by traditional lifestyles, widespread incest or systematic fraud, there is no fourth option.<br><br>Thanks to <a href="https://gerontology.chp.vcu.edu/our-team/catherine-macdonald-ms.html">Catherine MacDonald</a> for helping us research and fact-check this episode!<br><br><b>Support us:</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/">Watch Aubrey's documentary</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474">Buy Aubrey's book</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897">Listen to Mike's other podcast</a></li><li><a href="http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase">Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul><p><b>Links!</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.09.06.24313170v1.full-text">The global pattern of centenarians highlights deep problems in demography</a></li><li><a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3000148&type=printable">Late-life mortality is underestimated because of data errors</a></li><li><a href="https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v3">Supercentenarian and remarkable age records exhibit patterns indicative of clerical errors and pension fraud</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/24/well/live/blue-zones-longevity-aging.html">Do People in ‘Blue Zones’ Actually Live Longer?</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18426957/">They really are that old: a validation study of centenarian prevalence in Okinawa</a></li><li><a href="https://academic.oup.com/biomedgerontology/article/74/Supplement_1/S13/5569844?login=false">The Real Facts Supporting Jeanne Calment as the Oldest Ever Human </a></li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3205712/">A Population Where Men Live As Long As Women: Villagrande Strisaili, Sardinia</a></li><li><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1155/2010/423087">Typologies of Extreme Longevity Myths</a> </li><li><a href="https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1186/s42779-022-00152-5.pdf">Sardinian dietary analysis for longevity: a review of the literature</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34265327/">Identification of a geographic area characterized by extreme longevity in the Sardinia island</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34265327/">Specific features of the oldest old from the Longevity Blue Zones in Ikaria and Sardinia</a></li><li><a href="https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/85824797/j.socscimed.2015.01.01920220510-1-1yysb0j-libre.pdf?1652212882=&response-content-disposition=inline;+filename=Making_the_Blue_Zones_Neoliberalism_and.pdf&Expires=1736049166&Signature=R1hyUSqtzaUH6NRLzk9faufXJp6yA7LweeYzfE8hdi-urfVCu8NDBb319~OcqVfYgvlqocdKdtTqcETns-s~-ChcZR9RFFXEI6iLJq834rP7rANsZdPTn6n3EFqXOhtyxErhEZN-ga0U4PyZsaBcRArx6z-WY0XW~LxbDIOwJ4m3X7D6xsBxs7nuPLUcyJFbAfkRkj5QpuInu1eFXaYcKboumiR5Fr3jCCNQCgnHD2FHXc0IgzhR83QdAC0Ov2GN-Vyo8iG29M73v4PFG-eCliHTNTpGhZGVt4i5hhZa3DifibpWeB5ytPOYTxkclZmIf9i4Arna6-4NxysrgJzRWg__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA">Making the Blue Zones: Neoliberalism and nudges in public health promotion</a></li><li><a href="https://immunityageing.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12979-016-0066-z">Human longevity: Genetics or Lifestyle?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/43050808">Familial transmission of human longevity</a></li></ul><p>Thanks to <a href="https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/">Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>

<p>Because we live in hell, here is last month's bonus episode about RFK Jr.'s presidential campaign with a new intro about what he could do at HHS. <br><br>See you next year! </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>

<p>The internet gets weird investigating the "disappearance" of America's gay best friend. <br><br><b>Support us:</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.madman.com.au/your-fat-friend/">Watch Aubrey’s documentary in AU & NZ</a>, or <a href="https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/">watch it at home anywhere else</a>!</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474">Buy Aubrey's book</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897">Listen to Mike's other podcast</a></li><li><a href="http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase">Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul><p><b>Links!</b></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU6j7vjfbEs">Richard Simmons Show</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/style/richard-simmons-the-original-queer-eye.html?searchResultPosition=1">Richard Simmons, the Original Queer Eye</a></li><li><a href="https://people.com/archive/former-fatty-richard-simmons-is-the-grand-duke-of-diet-and-the-clown-prince-of-fitness-vol-15-no-14/">The Grand Duke of Diet and the Clown Prince of Fitness</a> </li><li><a href="https://people.com/archive/cover-story-the-sultan-of-svelte-vol-16-no-18/">The Sultan of Svelte</a> </li><li><a href="https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/ulj/vol12/iss2/1/">The Deregulation Of Commercial Television</a></li><li><a href="https://www.eastvalleytribune.com/local/simmons-says-slapping-mesa-man-was-meant-as-playful/article_eed2c223-0fe3-52a0-998a-e7d11e8cdede.html">Simmons Says Slapping Mesa Man Was Meant as Playful</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.menshealth.com/guy-wisdom/richard-simmons">Richard Simmons’ Life Was a ‘Never-Ending Work in Progress’</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/richard-simmons-ordered-pay-130-000-after-transgender-lawsuit-n855936">Richard Simmons ordered to pay $130,000 after transgender lawsuit</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.avclub.com/pauly-shore-richard-simmons-biopic-update">Richard Simmons' family asks Pauly Shore to please stop</a></li><li><a href="https://www.avclub.com/pauly-shore-richard-simmons-biopic-new-update-1851442448">Pauly Shore's Richard Simmons biopic might actually be dead</a></li><li><a href="https://people.com/richard-simmons-death-was-an-accident-ground-level-fall-8704146">Richard Simmons' Death Was an 'Accident'</a></li><li><a href="https://people.com/richard-simmons-housekeeper-of-35-years-breaks-her-silence-he-died-happy-8684764">Richard Simmons' Housekeeper of 35 Years Breaks Her Silence</a></li><li><a href="https://www.heart.org/en/news/2024/02/26/how-eating-disorders-can-damage-the-heart">How eating disorders can damage the heart</a> </li></ul><p>Thanks to <a href="https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/">Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a></p>