<p>The Buddhist case — and toolkit — for “don’t-know mind.”</p><p><br></p><p>For this episode, Executive Producer DJ Cashmere interviewed a trio of brilliant Dharma teachers to get their advice about how to handle being wrong. This is the third in a series of <a href="http://www.happierapp.com/podcast-playlists/correspondent-episodes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">'correspondent' episodes</a>, in which DJ identifies a pain point in his life and meditation practice, then goes out into the world to report on the best ways to address it.</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.kairajewel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kaira Jewel Lingo</a> is a former nun in the Plum Village tradition started by Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. <a href="https://vinnyferraro.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vinny Ferraro </a>teaches at the Insight Meditation Society and Spirit Rock, and also in prisons. <a href="https://www.matthewbrensilver.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matthew Brensilver</a> teaches at many of the same retreat centers, and spent many years working in the field of addiction pharmacotherapy.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>*Matthew’s Dharma talk on <a href="https://dharmaseed.org/talks/80528/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Knowing And Not-Knowing</a></p><p><br></p><p>****</p><p>Want to study and practice with today's guests? Please check out these <a href="https://www.spiritrock.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spirit Rock</a> offerings:</p><p>Matthew Brensilver, <a href="https://courses.spiritrock.org/sp/buddhist-psychology-training-integrating-mindfulness-science-and-clinical-practice/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Buddhist Psychology Training</strong></a> (Begins in January)</p><p>Vinny Ferraro: <a href="https://spirit-rock.secure.retreat.guru/program/a-year-to-live-yl6t25/?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>A Year to Live</strong></a>; <a href="https://spirit-rock.secure.retreat.guru/program/discovering-what-death-can-teach-us-about-living-fully-vf1h24/?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Discovering What Death Can Teach Us About Living Fully</strong></a> (Begins in January)</p><p>Kaira Jewel Lingo: <a href="https://spirit-rock.secure.retreat.guru/program/healing-our-way-home-black-buddhist-teachings-kw1d24/?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Healing Our Way Home</strong></a> (Oct. 20); <a href="https://spirit-rock.secure.retreat.guru/program/insight-meditation-retreat-216r25-on-land/?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Insight Meditation Retreat</strong></a><strong> </strong>(April 9-16; opens Dec. 11)</p><p>All<em> 10% Happier</em> listeners receive a discount code for our <a href="https://spirit-rock.secure.retreat.guru/program/meeting-the-three-characteristics-through-cultivating-stability-well-being-and-confidence-386r24-on-land/?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>December Insight Retreat</strong></a> (Dec. 8-18) with the code TENPERCENT</p><p><br></p><p>& if you'd like to study with these guests on the East Coast, check out these retreats at the <a href="https://myims.dharma.org/s/retreat-center-2025" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Insight Meditation Society</a>:</p><p><strong>Kaira Jewel Lingo, </strong>Strength to Love: Honoring Dr. Martin Luther King: Jr. (Jan 17 - Jan 20), and Return to Wholeness: Opening to Wisdom & Love (Mar 23 - Mar 29)</p><p><strong>Vinny Ferraro, </strong>Peace in Presence: A Four-Night Retreat for All (Jan 31 - Feb 4)</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Related Episodes:</strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="http://www.happierapp.com/podcast-playlists/correspondent-episodes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to all of DJ’s correspondence episodes here</a></li><li><a href="https://www.happierapp.com/podcast/tph/kaira-jewel-lingo-news" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">3 Buddhist Strategies for When the News is Overwhelming | Kaira Jewel Lingo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.happierapp.com/podcast/tph/kaira-jewel-lingo-363" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Keep Your Relationships On the Rails | Kaira Jewel Lingo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.happierapp.com/podcast/tph/vinny-ferraro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Three Buddhist Practices For Getting Your Sh*t Together | Vinny Ferraro</a></li><li><a href="https://happierapp.com/podcast/tph/matthew-brensilver-415" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Self-Hatred Makes No Sense | Matthew Brensilver</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/7fwlRSshqnGwft9lIPlxGB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Actually Be Present | Matthew Brensilver</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Also, the teachers’ sites:</p><p><a href="https://vinnyferraro.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vinnyferraro.org/</a></p><p><a href="ht